Gordon: 8,000 hires for buildup: Olongapo City could be source for experienced workers
By Bernice Santiago • Pacific Daily News
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xxxshark wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!
And you're still a racist dumbass that only responds when it comes to spewing hate and ignorance against non-chamorros, in particular filipinos (no such culture as tagalos, jack@ss). The ironic twist is that if you are chamorro, you are more than likely of some filipino descent. You posting in this culturally debatable topic is as obvious as the sun rising in the morning. But catch a positive article that requires the least bit of validity and use of the slightest amount of intellect, you are nowhere to be found. And I know you'll have nothing intelligent to respond in return. I welcome an attempt.06/02/2009 10:32:56 a.m. CST
gryyrg wrote:
Replying to guamham:
There will be many job oppurtunities for those who are qualified and willing to earn there money.QUOTE]I agree. So, to those who keep on weeping, be qualified and be willing to work. I have heard that free trainings are being offered by GCC and GCA.
guamham wrote:
There will be many job oppurtunities for those who are qualified and willing to earn there money.For those who can't seem to figure it out, There is not enough trained and able bodies here and as a contractor, would you rather pay $300 travel fare or $2000 travel fare? And that's just openers. There will be a number of stateside hires but many will not be willing to go through the family seperations and barracks living etc that H2 workers normally endure. The need is great for many but they need to be qualified now and we can't wait for 3 to 5 years to get the trained labor pool we should allready have except for the unwillingness of too many here to actually learn and work. There has been little work ethic instilled in the population. I note that those qualified and willing to work allways seem to have more work available then they can handle. (Why do so many retirees work when they don't have too?) Where we go after the build is over?? H2 goes home (most anyway)
laolao wrote:
TAGALO ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!Work hard @ all times.To all you haters watch ya gonna do???????Come to AGAT and ask for LAOLAO.
gryyrg wrote:
guys,before you say anything, do your homework first. do a research about the process of hiring H-2 workers. somebody has said it already here that, before, H-2 can be hired, the position has been advertised first for the locals/public. if a "qualified" local/american applied for the said position then the DOL cannot issue a labor certification/labor conditions. hence, companies cannot hire H-2 for the said position... now, i can say that those that wise and intelligent locals can't deny the fact that guam really needs H-2 based on the current situation.but those that keep on crying about H-2 coming in are uneducated or pretends to be educated, yet, not wise enough to be able to be able to use thier knowledge properly.i know a lot of locals with "critical thinking" and they are doing great at their job. however, there are countless out there who know nothing.
oldsuquebebastar wrote:
Replying to Vandy:
oldsuquebebastar Don't let INS catch you or you will be looking for someone to pay your fines and do your time.
When the H-2s arrive in droves for the military build-up, there will be a boom in small construction projects. Local people will hire H-2s for cash under the table to build everything from driveways and outdoor kitchens, to additions on houses and entire houses. It has been happening since H-2s first arrived here and will continue to happen as long as there is no enforcement of labor laws. Have you ever heard of anyone being fined for using H-2s on a small project? How do you tell the difference between an H-2 moonlighting and a legal Black Construction worker moonlighting? Do Dept. of Labor inverstigators work at night and on weekends? Face it, enforcement of these laws is only done on a complaint basis and local contractors aren't interested in small projects anyway. H-2s see this as an opportunity, not exploitation. I sure do.
IslaGuam wrote:
Replying to HonestDem:
The question isn't about the abundance of Filipinos (called Tagalos by Chamorros for at least two centuries). It is about whether US workers will be hired first before H2s. My hunch is that every gubernatorial candidate (especially the one who loves to make deals) has already identified someone who will give him the necessary funding for a campaign and then the pay off will come. Every local politician can be bought off for this process by money and the lure of votes. That is the problem. Insulting each other is not the source of discord. It is a side show to real deal making and evil that will be going on.
You are right on the money my friend!!! The problem is not RP citizens in Guam, it is the local politicians who are self serving career individuals. Blame it on the ones who continue to vote for them at every election.
IslaGuam wrote:
Yes! The Fed's have already discussed the way ahead for Guam which is a federal take-over. The local policicians have proven time and time again that "ALL TALK, BUT NO TO LITTLE ACTION" 06/02/2009 7:56:41 a.m. CST
IslaGuam wrote:
I agree with this comment. I am a Chamorro and I work for the govt and it hurts me to see many of our locals not performing to standard and doing everything possible to get over. Our young locals that are coming out of high schools and those who are middle age need to stop with the hand-outs, need to stop complaining about P.I locals and just get a job. If our outer Micronesian Islanders can work and get a job here in Guam, the only thing that is stopping you local chamorros is yourself. The old days of waiting for a Govguam job, for a high position is long gone. I started at the bottom and I worked myself up. Many of you can do the same thing! If you don't, it only means that you are lazy, unmotivated, and just want to stay under welfare/food stamps. I am not saying that all Chamorros are this way; there are many great and outstanding Chamorro brothers and sisters out there. It just so happens that there are many, many of the lazy and unmotivated ones are there too. The truth hurts!06/02/2009 7:52:25 a.m. CST
madguy wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Replying to goodboy:
Replying to zinger88
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!
zinger88, would you just shut up already? Adults are trying to have a discussion here.06/02/2009 7:50:04 a.m. CST
KULOTORU wrote:
Why is everyone acting like the skills cannot be taught to people here? We have some very smart people on this island...OF ALL NATIONALITIES!! Let's invest in them. START NOW! This is where our leaders and politions can show us their worth. Start backing up the very people that put them in office. If anything this can be something honest & worthly that can help any politician win votes. Let's see those canidates running for Gov. & Lt. Gov. 2010 --this is your chance to make yourself look worthy.For every successful person in this world there was a STARTING point. Everyone has to crawl before they walk. Give the people here a chance and make the opportunities easily available. Esta.06/02/2009 7:47:07 a.m. CST
adeguzman wrote:
I like the fact that this article has caused alot of people to be uncomfortable. Guam has been complacent on their educational values and the time has come to pay the price. I see very little workmanship and pride in the work produced by the recent generations that have graduated from High School.Someone needs to pick up a book, start learning, and stop wasting their time on MySpace and World of War Craft. GCC is doing a Construction Course for FREE right now and very few people are taking advantage of it. FREE people - there is your training center. However, most locals think they are too good for construction.Most people complaining on this website have a job but is supporting the free-loaders in Guam's society. We are UPSET because Filipino's in another country is making an effor to help themselves while our Locals just hold out their other hand.If you are complaining about the Filipino's and do not have a job - stop complaining and BECOME skilled - you have 6 months.06/02/2009 7:29:02 a.m. CST
Rubberdub wrote:
Hopefully these workers will be informed that they will be required to live in substandard conditions and may not get paid. In effect, they are likely to be treated like slaves, without recourse and sent home without any pay. Is that not how it is being done now? Is that not how our Senators have decided it will continue to be done? Without enforcement and 10's of thousands more H2 workers on Guam, this will only get worse.Senators that voted down the bill that would provide for inspections and enforcement of labor laws for H2 workers make me sick to my stomache. What are their immoral intentions anyway? What kind of people have we elected to run this island? Whereas many of our senators are Chamoru, they represent the people and culture poorly and they ARE the bases for public opinion. Federal take over of this is beginnig to show in my crystal ball.06/02/2009 7:12:35 a.m. CST
zinger88 wrote:
Replying to goodboy:
Replying to zinger88:I thought Guam is a U.S. territory which mean land of the free with freedom of speech, and for your information Philiipines consists of over hundred language which means to say that not all people from Philippines are TAGALOGS. NOT TAGALOS IDIOT. And to all that complain about hiring local people, sure why not, as long as you are qualified, clear background which means no criminal record, skilled with proper training and experience and certifications as much as possible and willing to work all day not the usual Guam attitude of working half a day.If you work for the military which I do you do the work and not much of a talk. You work the military way or its the highway.
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!06/02/2009 6:53:47 a.m. CST
rmun02 wrote:
Don't think for a minute that if you hire those Filipino's that they won't be looking to stay. Look at the current Filipino's on Guam that stayed after post-WWII buildup and the Filipino's today in Saipan demanding special status to stay and freely travel around the states. 8K+ ?! Holy hell.... talk about further cultural confusion. Instead of revitalizing the lost Chamorro culture on Guam... we're looking at permanent extinction!Not just that, but I thought the main reason supporting the buildup was for Guam's economy...not the PI's economy! SenAguon, I hope you're still working on bringing us back home with good jobs!06/02/2009 6:45:06 a.m. CST
ChamorroSoldier wrote:
There are posts about this article that are emotionally filled and with due respect. My opinion is that Guam should have the labor force required for the ensuing build sustained by an American workforce. The skilled workforce on Guam should have the first opportunity for employment and what ever shortage there is be filled by Americans from the mainland. The result is taxes stay on Guam and financially we will be aiding American workers. If there is a void then H-2 workers could fill it as a last resort. The phillipines supply a workforce globally that provide a service for many nations however; you do not find this workforce in the United States. Guam is America so there is not a need for the H-2 program at this magnitude.I conclude that there is a huge payday for certain groups involved from DC to Guam. When it's all said and done Guam and all it's people will be left with a mess that could never be corrected.I'm not being06/02/2009 6:33:51 a.m. CST
aldabok wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!
The Bible says...ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. I hope you don't get very sick and then try to fly to P.I. for Expert medical examination/surgery or Hawaii or U.S. Mainland because there are thousands of tagalog. P.I. don't only export maids and H2 they also export brain (nurses, doctors, engineers, medtech, you name it). What do you think will happen to Guam if all Tagalog leave the island right now?????????My brother thru Jesus be open minded and do appreciate people that help your island be a nice place to live. What happen if Guam become independent and no more U.s. Aids, Would you survive?????????If you're answer is yes............YLMF........god bless you.06/02/2009 6:30:22 a.m. CST
HonestDem wrote:
The question isn't about the abundance of Filipinos (called Tagalos by Chamorros for at least two centuries). It is about whether US workers will be hired first before H2s. My hunch is that every gubernatorial candidate (especially the one who loves to make deals) has already identified someone who will give him the necessary funding for a campaign and then the pay off will come. Every local politician can be bought off for this process by money and the lure of votes. That is the problem. Insulting each other is not the source of discord. It is a side show to real deal making and evil that will be going on.06/02/2009 6:30:03 a.m. CST
goodboy wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!
I thought Guam is a U.S. territory which mean land of the free with freedom of speech, and for your information Philiipines consists of over hundred language which means to say that not all people from Philippines are TAGALOGS. NOT TAGALOS IDIOT. And to all that complain about hiring local people, sure why not, as long as you are qualified, clear background which means no criminal record, skilled with proper training and experience and certifications as much as possible and willing to work all day not the usual Guam attitude of working half a day.If you work for the military which I do you do the work and not much of a talk. You work the military way or its the highway.06/02/2009 6:23:34 a.m. CST
I_C_U_TRIPPIN wrote:
Replying to DaneJiRoos:
Replying to I_C_U_TRIPPIN:
/>The question is why haven't the Chamorros who moved to the states not coming back to take advantage of the upcoming buildup? They certainly are the first choice to being hired if and when they make themselves available. So what's the reason?
Because I am here making sure that your freedom is being fought, while you stay at home crying like a F_U_C_K_EN Moron.If you don't think that there are skill workers at home (GUAM), you must be one of them. and if you a Philipino who came for work, more power to you. But if your not a skill worker and wanting to be, get train the proper way and get a job, and then I will not call you a MORON again, okay MORON. And Stop crying for I don't give a shi_t about you.
06/02/2009 5:45:30 a.m. CST
I_C_U_TRIPPIN wrote:
people, remember what the island of GUAM stands for. EMPLOY GUAM. Native in FLThe question is why haven't the Chamorros who moved to the states not coming back to take advantage of the upcoming buildup? They certainly are the first choice to being hired if and when they make themselves available. So what's the reason?[/QUOTE]Because I am here making sure that your freedom is being fought, while you stay at home crying like a F_U_C_K_EN Moron. If you don't think that there are skill workers at home (GUAM), you must be one of them. and if you a Philipino who came for work, more power to you. But if your not a skill worker and wanting to be, get train the proper way and get a job, and then I will not call you a MORON again, okay MORON. And Stop crying for I don't give a shi_t about you.06/02/2009 5:42:29 a.m. CST
Apolakay wrote:
Congratulations PDN, once again you have roused up the bigots and the xenophobes.06/02/2009 5:35:07 a.m. CST
guchi wrote:
I think government of guam have to think about guam local people`s employment oppotunity i`live in okinawa japan but i have friend in guam so i went to guam twice i took taxi in guam but i couldn`t see chamorro taxi driver i think lot of taxi driver from philippines government of guam issue work permit to them? i think they should hire chamorro/american people because guam is part of united states of america is not part of republic of philippines06/02/2009 5:27:26 a.m. CST
Vandy wrote:
oldsuquebebastar Don't let INS catch you or you will be looking for someone to pay your fines and do your time.06/02/2009 5:26:38 a.m. CST
davebowden wrote:
lipstickonababue,look around. You are clearly in the minority and the inflated bureaucratic workforce (consisting of long-termers) combined with increasingly poor decisions on almost every level (See: blue hole wonder of the world, for example) is why Guam is where it is. If they had a majority of you then perhaps things would be different but don't try and use yourself to defend what is clearly not the norm. If you had began your statement without the dig into what is a honest and reality-driven observation, I would have left your comment alone. H-2 workers WILL have the jobs because locals DON'T want them. This is true based on the lack of desire for education, training, and supported by welfare and false pride (in the form of accepting less than they THINK they are worth).The only brainless comments being posted are those who feel local pride and culture is at stake when in reality both can easily be preserved if they do more than b*tch around the bar-b-cue pit (or this post)06/02/2009 5:21:04 a.m. CST
guamham wrote:
Too many racist and ignorant comments. People, including most readers will do what they must to support there familys. Few people enjoy the thought of family seperation but if there is no work at home, you go where you can find it and send money home. This is true world wide and if we didn't have the circumstance of our Geography, ( We just happen to be "tip of the spear"); Most likely we'd be going wherever there appeared to be the oppurtunity to support our families. (Example: How many locals have relocated stateside?)I believe that people in general are not the problem in this world but rather the processes of politics and greed world wide.06/02/2009 5:08:02 a.m. CST
lipstickonababue wrote:
Replying to davebowden:
Your statement...sounds...like that of guam...they beg the government for money (no local desire to actually work with heavy desire to work a brainless job at govguam) to support the local gov't. ...the simplified model:...impotent employees...breed millions of...impotent govguam employees... H-2 workers will...do well, export their money and locals will have...lots of excuses...
Absolutely brainless comment as well. Why do people think that GovGuam employees have ONLY worked at government jobs all their lives? BTW, for many years, I had worked a night job in the private sector as a supervisor while I worked daytime in GovGuam and was successful - received awards for dedication, efficiency, etc. If there was a correlation between being a GovGuam worker and being lazy, then I should have been the worst worker at all my private sector jobs. Won't deny there are bad apples in GG, but the real problem lies in the stupid political games that inhibit any kind of progress.06/02/2009 4:51:40 a.m. CST
zinger88 wrote:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!06/02/2009 4:36:33 a.m. CST
In Your Voice Read reactions and GIVE COMMENT to this story
By Bernice Santiago • Pacific Daily News
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xxxshark wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!
And you're still a racist dumbass that only responds when it comes to spewing hate and ignorance against non-chamorros, in particular filipinos (no such culture as tagalos, jack@ss). The ironic twist is that if you are chamorro, you are more than likely of some filipino descent. You posting in this culturally debatable topic is as obvious as the sun rising in the morning. But catch a positive article that requires the least bit of validity and use of the slightest amount of intellect, you are nowhere to be found. And I know you'll have nothing intelligent to respond in return. I welcome an attempt.06/02/2009 10:32:56 a.m. CST
gryyrg wrote:
Replying to guamham:
There will be many job oppurtunities for those who are qualified and willing to earn there money.QUOTE]I agree. So, to those who keep on weeping, be qualified and be willing to work. I have heard that free trainings are being offered by GCC and GCA.
guamham wrote:
There will be many job oppurtunities for those who are qualified and willing to earn there money.For those who can't seem to figure it out, There is not enough trained and able bodies here and as a contractor, would you rather pay $300 travel fare or $2000 travel fare? And that's just openers. There will be a number of stateside hires but many will not be willing to go through the family seperations and barracks living etc that H2 workers normally endure. The need is great for many but they need to be qualified now and we can't wait for 3 to 5 years to get the trained labor pool we should allready have except for the unwillingness of too many here to actually learn and work. There has been little work ethic instilled in the population. I note that those qualified and willing to work allways seem to have more work available then they can handle. (Why do so many retirees work when they don't have too?) Where we go after the build is over?? H2 goes home (most anyway)
laolao wrote:
TAGALO ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!Work hard @ all times.To all you haters watch ya gonna do???????Come to AGAT and ask for LAOLAO.
gryyrg wrote:
guys,before you say anything, do your homework first. do a research about the process of hiring H-2 workers. somebody has said it already here that, before, H-2 can be hired, the position has been advertised first for the locals/public. if a "qualified" local/american applied for the said position then the DOL cannot issue a labor certification/labor conditions. hence, companies cannot hire H-2 for the said position... now, i can say that those that wise and intelligent locals can't deny the fact that guam really needs H-2 based on the current situation.but those that keep on crying about H-2 coming in are uneducated or pretends to be educated, yet, not wise enough to be able to be able to use thier knowledge properly.i know a lot of locals with "critical thinking" and they are doing great at their job. however, there are countless out there who know nothing.
oldsuquebebastar wrote:
Replying to Vandy:
oldsuquebebastar Don't let INS catch you or you will be looking for someone to pay your fines and do your time.
When the H-2s arrive in droves for the military build-up, there will be a boom in small construction projects. Local people will hire H-2s for cash under the table to build everything from driveways and outdoor kitchens, to additions on houses and entire houses. It has been happening since H-2s first arrived here and will continue to happen as long as there is no enforcement of labor laws. Have you ever heard of anyone being fined for using H-2s on a small project? How do you tell the difference between an H-2 moonlighting and a legal Black Construction worker moonlighting? Do Dept. of Labor inverstigators work at night and on weekends? Face it, enforcement of these laws is only done on a complaint basis and local contractors aren't interested in small projects anyway. H-2s see this as an opportunity, not exploitation. I sure do.
IslaGuam wrote:
Replying to HonestDem:
The question isn't about the abundance of Filipinos (called Tagalos by Chamorros for at least two centuries). It is about whether US workers will be hired first before H2s. My hunch is that every gubernatorial candidate (especially the one who loves to make deals) has already identified someone who will give him the necessary funding for a campaign and then the pay off will come. Every local politician can be bought off for this process by money and the lure of votes. That is the problem. Insulting each other is not the source of discord. It is a side show to real deal making and evil that will be going on.
You are right on the money my friend!!! The problem is not RP citizens in Guam, it is the local politicians who are self serving career individuals. Blame it on the ones who continue to vote for them at every election.
IslaGuam wrote:
Yes! The Fed's have already discussed the way ahead for Guam which is a federal take-over. The local policicians have proven time and time again that "ALL TALK, BUT NO TO LITTLE ACTION" 06/02/2009 7:56:41 a.m. CST
IslaGuam wrote:
I agree with this comment. I am a Chamorro and I work for the govt and it hurts me to see many of our locals not performing to standard and doing everything possible to get over. Our young locals that are coming out of high schools and those who are middle age need to stop with the hand-outs, need to stop complaining about P.I locals and just get a job. If our outer Micronesian Islanders can work and get a job here in Guam, the only thing that is stopping you local chamorros is yourself. The old days of waiting for a Govguam job, for a high position is long gone. I started at the bottom and I worked myself up. Many of you can do the same thing! If you don't, it only means that you are lazy, unmotivated, and just want to stay under welfare/food stamps. I am not saying that all Chamorros are this way; there are many great and outstanding Chamorro brothers and sisters out there. It just so happens that there are many, many of the lazy and unmotivated ones are there too. The truth hurts!06/02/2009 7:52:25 a.m. CST
madguy wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Replying to goodboy:
Replying to zinger88
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!
zinger88, would you just shut up already? Adults are trying to have a discussion here.06/02/2009 7:50:04 a.m. CST
KULOTORU wrote:
Why is everyone acting like the skills cannot be taught to people here? We have some very smart people on this island...OF ALL NATIONALITIES!! Let's invest in them. START NOW! This is where our leaders and politions can show us their worth. Start backing up the very people that put them in office. If anything this can be something honest & worthly that can help any politician win votes. Let's see those canidates running for Gov. & Lt. Gov. 2010 --this is your chance to make yourself look worthy.For every successful person in this world there was a STARTING point. Everyone has to crawl before they walk. Give the people here a chance and make the opportunities easily available. Esta.06/02/2009 7:47:07 a.m. CST
adeguzman wrote:
I like the fact that this article has caused alot of people to be uncomfortable. Guam has been complacent on their educational values and the time has come to pay the price. I see very little workmanship and pride in the work produced by the recent generations that have graduated from High School.Someone needs to pick up a book, start learning, and stop wasting their time on MySpace and World of War Craft. GCC is doing a Construction Course for FREE right now and very few people are taking advantage of it. FREE people - there is your training center. However, most locals think they are too good for construction.Most people complaining on this website have a job but is supporting the free-loaders in Guam's society. We are UPSET because Filipino's in another country is making an effor to help themselves while our Locals just hold out their other hand.If you are complaining about the Filipino's and do not have a job - stop complaining and BECOME skilled - you have 6 months.06/02/2009 7:29:02 a.m. CST
Rubberdub wrote:
Hopefully these workers will be informed that they will be required to live in substandard conditions and may not get paid. In effect, they are likely to be treated like slaves, without recourse and sent home without any pay. Is that not how it is being done now? Is that not how our Senators have decided it will continue to be done? Without enforcement and 10's of thousands more H2 workers on Guam, this will only get worse.Senators that voted down the bill that would provide for inspections and enforcement of labor laws for H2 workers make me sick to my stomache. What are their immoral intentions anyway? What kind of people have we elected to run this island? Whereas many of our senators are Chamoru, they represent the people and culture poorly and they ARE the bases for public opinion. Federal take over of this is beginnig to show in my crystal ball.06/02/2009 7:12:35 a.m. CST
zinger88 wrote:
Replying to goodboy:
Replying to zinger88:I thought Guam is a U.S. territory which mean land of the free with freedom of speech, and for your information Philiipines consists of over hundred language which means to say that not all people from Philippines are TAGALOGS. NOT TAGALOS IDIOT. And to all that complain about hiring local people, sure why not, as long as you are qualified, clear background which means no criminal record, skilled with proper training and experience and certifications as much as possible and willing to work all day not the usual Guam attitude of working half a day.If you work for the military which I do you do the work and not much of a talk. You work the military way or its the highway.
I don't care, you're still a tagalo!06/02/2009 6:53:47 a.m. CST
rmun02 wrote:
Don't think for a minute that if you hire those Filipino's that they won't be looking to stay. Look at the current Filipino's on Guam that stayed after post-WWII buildup and the Filipino's today in Saipan demanding special status to stay and freely travel around the states. 8K+ ?! Holy hell.... talk about further cultural confusion. Instead of revitalizing the lost Chamorro culture on Guam... we're looking at permanent extinction!Not just that, but I thought the main reason supporting the buildup was for Guam's economy...not the PI's economy! SenAguon, I hope you're still working on bringing us back home with good jobs!06/02/2009 6:45:06 a.m. CST
ChamorroSoldier wrote:
There are posts about this article that are emotionally filled and with due respect. My opinion is that Guam should have the labor force required for the ensuing build sustained by an American workforce. The skilled workforce on Guam should have the first opportunity for employment and what ever shortage there is be filled by Americans from the mainland. The result is taxes stay on Guam and financially we will be aiding American workers. If there is a void then H-2 workers could fill it as a last resort. The phillipines supply a workforce globally that provide a service for many nations however; you do not find this workforce in the United States. Guam is America so there is not a need for the H-2 program at this magnitude.I conclude that there is a huge payday for certain groups involved from DC to Guam. When it's all said and done Guam and all it's people will be left with a mess that could never be corrected.I'm not being06/02/2009 6:33:51 a.m. CST
aldabok wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!
The Bible says...ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. I hope you don't get very sick and then try to fly to P.I. for Expert medical examination/surgery or Hawaii or U.S. Mainland because there are thousands of tagalog. P.I. don't only export maids and H2 they also export brain (nurses, doctors, engineers, medtech, you name it). What do you think will happen to Guam if all Tagalog leave the island right now?????????My brother thru Jesus be open minded and do appreciate people that help your island be a nice place to live. What happen if Guam become independent and no more U.s. Aids, Would you survive?????????If you're answer is yes............YLMF........god bless you.06/02/2009 6:30:22 a.m. CST
HonestDem wrote:
The question isn't about the abundance of Filipinos (called Tagalos by Chamorros for at least two centuries). It is about whether US workers will be hired first before H2s. My hunch is that every gubernatorial candidate (especially the one who loves to make deals) has already identified someone who will give him the necessary funding for a campaign and then the pay off will come. Every local politician can be bought off for this process by money and the lure of votes. That is the problem. Insulting each other is not the source of discord. It is a side show to real deal making and evil that will be going on.06/02/2009 6:30:03 a.m. CST
goodboy wrote:
Replying to zinger88:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!
I thought Guam is a U.S. territory which mean land of the free with freedom of speech, and for your information Philiipines consists of over hundred language which means to say that not all people from Philippines are TAGALOGS. NOT TAGALOS IDIOT. And to all that complain about hiring local people, sure why not, as long as you are qualified, clear background which means no criminal record, skilled with proper training and experience and certifications as much as possible and willing to work all day not the usual Guam attitude of working half a day.If you work for the military which I do you do the work and not much of a talk. You work the military way or its the highway.06/02/2009 6:23:34 a.m. CST
I_C_U_TRIPPIN wrote:
Replying to DaneJiRoos:
Replying to I_C_U_TRIPPIN:
/>The question is why haven't the Chamorros who moved to the states not coming back to take advantage of the upcoming buildup? They certainly are the first choice to being hired if and when they make themselves available. So what's the reason?
Because I am here making sure that your freedom is being fought, while you stay at home crying like a F_U_C_K_EN Moron.If you don't think that there are skill workers at home (GUAM), you must be one of them. and if you a Philipino who came for work, more power to you. But if your not a skill worker and wanting to be, get train the proper way and get a job, and then I will not call you a MORON again, okay MORON. And Stop crying for I don't give a shi_t about you.
06/02/2009 5:45:30 a.m. CST
I_C_U_TRIPPIN wrote:
people, remember what the island of GUAM stands for. EMPLOY GUAM. Native in FLThe question is why haven't the Chamorros who moved to the states not coming back to take advantage of the upcoming buildup? They certainly are the first choice to being hired if and when they make themselves available. So what's the reason?[/QUOTE]Because I am here making sure that your freedom is being fought, while you stay at home crying like a F_U_C_K_EN Moron. If you don't think that there are skill workers at home (GUAM), you must be one of them. and if you a Philipino who came for work, more power to you. But if your not a skill worker and wanting to be, get train the proper way and get a job, and then I will not call you a MORON again, okay MORON. And Stop crying for I don't give a shi_t about you.06/02/2009 5:42:29 a.m. CST
Apolakay wrote:
Congratulations PDN, once again you have roused up the bigots and the xenophobes.06/02/2009 5:35:07 a.m. CST
guchi wrote:
I think government of guam have to think about guam local people`s employment oppotunity i`live in okinawa japan but i have friend in guam so i went to guam twice i took taxi in guam but i couldn`t see chamorro taxi driver i think lot of taxi driver from philippines government of guam issue work permit to them? i think they should hire chamorro/american people because guam is part of united states of america is not part of republic of philippines06/02/2009 5:27:26 a.m. CST
Vandy wrote:
oldsuquebebastar Don't let INS catch you or you will be looking for someone to pay your fines and do your time.06/02/2009 5:26:38 a.m. CST
davebowden wrote:
lipstickonababue,look around. You are clearly in the minority and the inflated bureaucratic workforce (consisting of long-termers) combined with increasingly poor decisions on almost every level (See: blue hole wonder of the world, for example) is why Guam is where it is. If they had a majority of you then perhaps things would be different but don't try and use yourself to defend what is clearly not the norm. If you had began your statement without the dig into what is a honest and reality-driven observation, I would have left your comment alone. H-2 workers WILL have the jobs because locals DON'T want them. This is true based on the lack of desire for education, training, and supported by welfare and false pride (in the form of accepting less than they THINK they are worth).The only brainless comments being posted are those who feel local pride and culture is at stake when in reality both can easily be preserved if they do more than b*tch around the bar-b-cue pit (or this post)06/02/2009 5:21:04 a.m. CST
guamham wrote:
Too many racist and ignorant comments. People, including most readers will do what they must to support there familys. Few people enjoy the thought of family seperation but if there is no work at home, you go where you can find it and send money home. This is true world wide and if we didn't have the circumstance of our Geography, ( We just happen to be "tip of the spear"); Most likely we'd be going wherever there appeared to be the oppurtunity to support our families. (Example: How many locals have relocated stateside?)I believe that people in general are not the problem in this world but rather the processes of politics and greed world wide.06/02/2009 5:08:02 a.m. CST
lipstickonababue wrote:
Replying to davebowden:
Your statement...sounds...like that of guam...they beg the government for money (no local desire to actually work with heavy desire to work a brainless job at govguam) to support the local gov't. ...the simplified model:...impotent employees...breed millions of...impotent govguam employees... H-2 workers will...do well, export their money and locals will have...lots of excuses...
Absolutely brainless comment as well. Why do people think that GovGuam employees have ONLY worked at government jobs all their lives? BTW, for many years, I had worked a night job in the private sector as a supervisor while I worked daytime in GovGuam and was successful - received awards for dedication, efficiency, etc. If there was a correlation between being a GovGuam worker and being lazy, then I should have been the worst worker at all my private sector jobs. Won't deny there are bad apples in GG, but the real problem lies in the stupid political games that inhibit any kind of progress.06/02/2009 4:51:40 a.m. CST
zinger88 wrote:
Please, no more tagalos on this island. There are way too many of them. Everytime I go to the store or out to eat I hear their chicken speak. They want to make Guam another province of the RP. No more tagalos!!!!!!!06/02/2009 4:36:33 a.m. CST
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